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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    Also, I am picking on this episode because it was the most recent and because it was super hyped. But this has been a problem for a while now. There are zero consequences for the main cast since Martin's material ran out. I had the same issue last year with the battle in the North where the only character that died was Thoros. At least there they killed a dragon. But I feel like the writers have fallen in love with their characters and/or the actors and the show has suffered because of it.
    I think that's a fair statement. There doesn't seem to be any shock coming from any episode anymore. Hopefully they are building to something truly shocking, but alas, it's probably more along the lines of the predictable scenarios I mentioned in my last post edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    There's 3 episodes left. They could have thinned the herd a little. The thing people are going to remember about GoT is the Red Wedding or Ned's death. Not this mess of an episode where the biggest character who died was Jorah Mormont who should have died from Greyscale anyway.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by bone View Post
    I think that's a fair statement. There doesn't seem to be any shock coming from any episode anymore. Hopefully they are building to something truly shocking, but alas, it's probably more along the lines of the predictable scenarios I mentioned in my last post edit.
    Yeah, imagine if the Night King kills Arya instead of the other way around. Imagine how crazy twitter would have been.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Much better episode tonight. I really enjoyed that.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    Much better episode tonight. I really enjoyed that.
    Agreed, left me much more intrigued as to how this will end.

    But seriously Jon, not even a damn doggy treat or something!?

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by T-BONE View Post
    Agreed, left me much more intrigued as to how this will end.

    But seriously Jon, not even a damn doggy treat or something!?
    That was pretty clearly a CGI decision. Whenever the direwolves have interacted with humans, it has looked pretty terrible. For whatever reason, they can get the dragons to look as real as I've ever seen but can't make a direwolf interact with people.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    This season is really feeling rushed, and that's a shame because it's been the best show for so long. They could have taken a full season the flesh out the battle against the Night King, and another season to give the battle for the Seven Kingdoms justice. I really wish Martin would have finished the books before they made the show, because there has been a noticeable drop since the source material was passed.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Other than the horrible 3rd episode, I've enjoyed this season quite a bit. It's flawed, sure, but it always had been. I think the complaints people have are overkill. It's still Game of Thrones.

    But I found this funny:

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    My biggest gripe about this episode was the quick end to the siblings from Saskatchewan. Really hoped Cersei would have died ugly for all the crap she’s done.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    This season has been weak. The "Dany goes full Mad King" thing was predictable as hell. Cersei's death was underwhelming, considering how evil she's been. And I especially hate how they turned the best character in TV, Tirion Lannister, into a sobbering buffoon.

    But at least it's not as ridiculous as last season was.

    Thing is, you can't hate too much. Game of Thrones has always been about subverting fan expectations. Both Martin and the showrunners love giving fans the finger in that Rian Johnson "Last Jedi" way (Worst SW movie by the way).

    I like GoT, but I've always felt it was over-rated anyway.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by boydo View Post
    My biggest gripe about this episode was the quick end to the siblings from Saskatchewan. Really hoped Cersei would have died ugly for all the crap she’s done.
    Thought the same at first, but thinking on it more dying in a pathetic way like a rat in a sewer is almost like the universe saying she's insignificant which is probably her most feared end. It may be more just. But truthfully, I really wanted to see Jamie kill her, foremost with Anya also being a good second option. But now she has a much bigger target. Ice and Fire... Anya will be the one to end both.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    I half expected that when Jaime found Cersei in the last episode, that Jaime actually WAS Arya, who found him dead from his fight with Euron and decided to wear his face to get close to Cersei.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by nafnikufesin View Post
    I half expected that when Jaime found Cersei in the last episode, that Jaime actually WAS Arya, who found him dead from his fight with Euron and decided to wear his face to get close to Cersei.
    That would have been awesome!!!
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by bone View Post
    Thought the same at first, but thinking on it more dying in a pathetic way like a rat in a sewer is almost like the universe saying she's insignificant which is probably her most feared end. It may be more just. But truthfully, I really wanted to see Jamie kill her, foremost with Anya also being a good second option. But now she has a much bigger target. Ice and Fire... Anya will be the one to end both.
    I expected Jaime to kill her because of the prophecy. But apparently, the show left that part of the prophecy out - which I missed upon first viewing. But I think Jaime's whole arc was really butchered over the 8 seasons. It's not Game of Thrones if they do the expected. Which probably means Jon won't end up on the Throne even though I still think that's where we are headed.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by nafnikufesin View Post
    I half expected that when Jaime found Cersei in the last episode, that Jaime actually WAS Arya, who found him dead from his fight with Euron and decided to wear his face to get close to Cersei.
    Perfect. Would have satisfied both options of seeing Jamie kill Cersei, but also giving Anya her revenge.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    I expected Jaime to kill her because of the prophecy. But apparently, the show left that part of the prophecy out - which I missed upon first viewing. But I think Jaime's whole arc was really butchered over the 8 seasons. It's not Game of Thrones if they do the expected. Which probably means Jon won't end up on the Throne even though I still think that's where we are headed.
    LOL! Maybe the comet from the books kills everyone at the end.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    I expected Jaime to kill her because of the prophecy. But apparently, the show left that part of the prophecy out - which I missed upon first viewing. But I think Jaime's whole arc was really butchered over the 8 seasons. It's not Game of Thrones if they do the expected. Which probably means Jon won't end up on the Throne even though I still think that's where we are headed.
    There's a chance it could be Arya as well. She kills people of many eye colors, green will be next but it turned out not to be Cersei's green.

    Or if they really want to mess with us, they'll make Gendry king and everyone would lose their mind.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by bone View Post
    There's a chance it could be Arya as well. She kills people of many eye colors, green will be next but it turned out not to be Cersei's green.

    Or if they really want to mess with us, they'll make Gendry king and everyone would lose their mind.
    Gendry makes zero sense. It will be Jon or nobody.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    I actually JUST started watching GoT a couple weeks ago ( am in season 3 atm) and I can see how Daenerys is changing into a mad queen. Already can't stand John Snow. I really hope Daenerys ends up on the throne.. enjoying her story line so far.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    Gendry makes zero sense. It will be Jon or nobody.
    It has to make sense?
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Arya for Queen!!!!!
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    What if the throne was destroyed in all the dragon fire ? Maybe more of a committee government?

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    How about an anarcho-syndicalist commune? You know, take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    As long as some watery tart doesn't lob a scimitar at someone and make them king I'm happy...
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    On January 17, 2007, I posted this:
    http://www.esksfans.com/forum/showth...-Coming-to-HBO!

    And tonight, May 19, 2019, it ends.

    I am in disbelief.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    On January 17, 2007, I posted this:
    http://www.esksfans.com/forum/showth...-Coming-to-HBO!

    And tonight, May 19, 2019, it ends.

    I am in disbelief.
    I always had a love/hate thing with GoT. Compelling enough to keep me watching, but subverted expectations so much that it frequently angered me. Now, at the end its just kind of silly and watered down.

    The show was better than the bloated books, IMO. However, I can't rank it in my top 10 all time by a long stretch.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    My impression of the final episode:

    Just look at those spinoff setups!

    Why have a strong ending when it's been weak sauce for 2 years now?
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019


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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    I'm just not so sure there have been many TV shows that I have loved that that have ended really well. Mad Men, Rome, The Americans, MASH, Star Trek TNG......So many more ended poorly. For example: The Sopranos, Deadwood...everything else.
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    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO) - Final Season: April 14, 2019

    Martin's blog post today

    The last night, the last show. After eight epic seasons, HBO’s GAME OF THRONES series has come to an end.

    It is hard to believe it is over, if truth be told. The years have gone past in the blink of an eye. Can it really have been more than a decade since my manager Vince Gerardis set up a meeting at the Palm in LA, and I sat down for the first time with David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for a lunch that lasted well past dinner? I asked them if they knew who Jon Snow’s mother was. Fortunately, they did.

    That was how it started. It ended last night.

    I had no clue, that afternoon at the Palm, that I was about to embark on a journey that would change my life. I had optioned books and stories for television and film before. Some had even been made There was no way to know that this one was going to be different, that this pilot would not only be shot, but would go on to become the most successful show in the history of HBO, win a record number of Emmy Awards, become the most popular (and most pirated) show in the world, and transform a group of talented but largely unknown actors into major celebrities and stars. Even less did I imagine that I would somehow become a celebrity as well… and if truth be told, I’m still not sure how that happened.

    It has been a wild ride, to say the least.

    I want to thank people, but there are so many. There were forty-two cast members at the season eight premiere in New York City, and that wasn’t even all of them. And the crew, though less visible than the cast, were no less important. We had some amazing people working on this show, as all those Emmys bear witness. David & Dan assembled a championship team. The directors were incredible as well. I should start naming names, but then I’d miss someone, there were so many. But I do need to mention David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Bryan Cogman (the third head of the dragon, as I said in the recent VANITY FAIR piece about him), and of course the great team at HBO, headed by Richard Plepler. Any other network, and GAME OF THRONES would not have been what it became. Most other networks, this series never gets made at all.

    I could go on and on… and have, as I’ve been writing this post in my head… but there’s really too much to say. Parting is such sweet sorrow, the Bard wrote. In the weeks and months to come, I may post about some of my favorite moments from the making of this show… now and again, when I am feeling nostalgic… but just now, there are so many memories, and no time to do them all justice.

    Let me say this much — last night was an ending, but it was also a beginning. Nobody is retiring any time soon. David and Dan are going on to STAR WARS and other projects beyond that. Amazon scooped up Bryan Cogman, and put him to work on developing shows of his own, as well as helping out on their big Tolkien project. Our brilliant cast has scattered to the four winds, but you’ll be seeing a lot of them in the years to come, in all manner of television shows and movies. Our directors are keeping busy as well. I suspect that you have not seen the last of Westeros on your television sets either, but I guess that all depends on how some of these successor shows turn out.

    And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…

    And I’m writing. Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is. THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done. I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.

    How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?

    Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.

    I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget. They had eight hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them. And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one. There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet. And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…

    Book or show, which will be the “real” ending? It’s a silly question. How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?

    How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.
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