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    Hot Madani: DEAL DONE Ray Traded to Argos

    "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    He's fallen off his rocker...
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    i actually thought hamilton would have been front runner on any potential deals for ray...
    interesting how toronto have popped up..

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Just picture our 2012's top 2 QBs... Starter Joesph and back up Jyles..... Shoot me.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    I knew it was only a matter of time before ET traded Ray. In fact, I think I said that here when ET was hired...that Ray won't last long. I thought the pay cut maybe spared him a couple years, but maybe not. We will see.
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks4ever View Post
    Just picture our 2012's top 2 QBs... Starter Joesph and back up Jyles..... Shoot me.
    not a chance

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    ditto.. I thought ET would have traded Ray last season... Trading Ray right now would severely hamper this team. Rideville would then elect ET as a god and worship him when he returns...

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by cmbuk View Post
    not a chance
    Big chance IMO... With ET here its the only reason Joesph had a job... With Ray gone and Joesph as our back up ( last season) I'd bet we'd see KJ as our starter...

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus View Post
    I knew it was only a matter of time before ET traded Ray. In fact, I think I said that here when ET was hired...that Ray won't last long. I thought the pay cut maybe spared him a couple years, but maybe not. We will see.
    if this actually has any legs.. i might say, et is the only gm with the balls to trade ray..

    but i believe nothing till i see it for myself via EE

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    I'm not a huge fan of the prospect of trading RR, but, I'm curious what the offers would bring us. He's cool as ice and doesn't bring an ego, both the Argo's and the Ticats could shell out big for that maturity.
    Just two questions:
    1) what do we get?
    2) who replaces him?

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks4ever View Post
    Big chance IMO... With ET here its the only reason Joesph had a job... With Ray gone and Joesph as our back up ( last season) I'd bet we'd see KJ as our starter...
    i doubt it buddy.. but i can see your train of thought

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerJoe View Post
    I'm not a huge fan of the prospect of trading RR, but, I'm curious what the offers would bring us. He's cool as ice and doesn't bring an ego, both the Argo's and the Ticats could shell out big for that maturity.
    Just two questions:
    1) what do we get?
    2) who replaces him?
    brilliant post.. great questions! NO WAY i would trade ray for jyles straight up...

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerJoe View Post
    I'm not a huge fan of the prospect of trading RR, but, I'm curious what the offers would bring us. He's cool as ice and doesn't bring an ego, both the Argo's and the Ticats could shell out big for that maturity.
    Just two questions:
    1) what do we get?
    2) who replaces him?


    you always listen to offers.. IIRC ET was quoted saying they'll listen to offers but it'd have to be one hell of a offer in order for him to trade RR....

    as for your questions:

    1. it would have to be one hell of a package
    2. ET's dream would be for KJ to be our starter other than that we have no plans at all

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by cmbuk View Post
    brilliant post.. great questions! NO WAY i would trade ray for jyles straight up...
    it would be Jyles plus a **** load.. it would have to be a hell of a package.... perhaps another 14 person trade like the Esks and Argos did back in the day - except we had better group of QBs then ( i think )

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    If it's Jyles for Ray straight up the Esks may as well bend over and take it up the pooper if that's the case. And if Tillman does that he's an idiot. But I don't think he does that deal. He would want a lot back from whoever he deals Ray to.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtuck09 View Post
    If it's Jyles for Ray straight up the Esks may as well bend over and take it up the pooper if that's the case. And if Tillman does that he's an idiot. But I don't think he does that deal. He would want a lot back from whoever he deals Ray to.
    Yeah, but who would you take back from the ArBlows!? They're whole roster is being traded before the 2012 season.
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    I can tell you that Toronto initiated the conversation with Ray and Tillman has been in negotiations with them.

    So these rumors are more than a rumor at this time.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    I just hope this is just a off season fluff article the reporters think up

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    You'd think president Braley could pull a few strings and just lend the Argos Travis Lulay for a year... that would help.
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Section N View Post
    Yeah, but who would you take back from the ArBlows!? They're whole roster is being traded before the 2012 season.
    Good question.
    I'd be asking for some picks from them because they will have a high one this year. Nothing short of the first overall pick. I don't think the Argos bite on that but you ask for it for sure.
    Aside from that, there isn't much. Maybe Hamilton lines up better for us as a trade partner.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    All in all, with only 1 NHL game tonight, and SF/SEA on MNF, and Crosby not speaking until the afternoon, the sports world needed something to talk about this morning.

    RR is going nowhere IMO.
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtuck09 View Post
    I can tell you that Toronto initiated the conversation with Ray and Tillman has been in negotiations with them.

    So these rumors are more than a rumor at this time.
    ET would be instantly become the most hated man in Esks history if he was to trade Ray for Jyles and whomever leaving us with Joseph/Jyles as our starter...


    I would be all for trading Ray IF we had been grooming a eventual replacement for Ray.. we havent and trading Ray now would be cataclysmic

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks4ever View Post
    ET would be instantly become the most hated man in Esks history if he was to trade Ray for Jyles and whomever leaving us with Joseph/Jyles as our starter...


    I would be all for trading Ray IF we had been grooming a eventual replacement for Ray.. we havent and trading Ray now would be cataclysmic
    This time in everyone's opinion.....
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    I can't see us even entertaining Jyles or Joseph as a starter. If Ray is really being shopped, ET has to have someone else in mind.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Unless Barker/Braley/ET/Buono can package up a deal to send Lulay to Edmonton, Ray to Toronto, and the entire Argos roster to BC, then this deal should never be made.
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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    from Twitter:

    Braley signed Dickenson to turn around BC , wants to do the same with Ricky Ray for Toronto...


    and we know the League bends over backwards and does everything its it power to please "the savior"


    Its prolly a league mandated trade....

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtuck09 View Post
    Good question.
    I'd be asking for some picks from them because they will have a high one this year. Nothing short of the first overall pick. I don't think the Argos bite on that but you ask for it for sure.
    Aside from that, there isn't much. Maybe Hamilton lines up better for us as a trade partner.
    That was my train of thought, hamilton

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Section N View Post
    Yeah, but who would you take back from the ArBlows!? They're whole roster is being traded before the 2012 season.


    I'd want Boyd, at minimum, because our return game has been just crap for too long.

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Section N View Post
    Unless Barker/Braley/ET/Buono can package up a deal to send Lulay to Edmonton, Ray to Toronto, and the entire Argos roster to BC, then this deal should never be made.
    Why?
    no one should ever be bigger than the club

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    Re: Naylor: Esks listening to offers for Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks4ever View Post
    ET would be instantly become the most hated man in Esks history if he was to trade Ray for Jyles and whomever leaving us with Joseph/Jyles as our starter...


    I would be all for trading Ray IF we had been grooming a eventual replacement for Ray.. we havent and trading Ray now would be cataclysmic


    He probably is...

    ...or, if I'm being frank, this would redeem him in a lot of people's minds. The sheep I hear yelling at games thinks Ray is a bum anyways.

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