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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bobby View Post
    I didn't follow the primaries that closely, but from what I remember, I thought Harris handled herself quite well.

    Who would you rather have seen?
    My perspective...
    There was some speculation that strategically, Val Demings could have secured Florida for Biden. I always saw Susan Rice as a legit candidate but she dropped off the radar quickly. While Kamala Harris is a highly popular and successful female politician, her strong hold is in California, which is all but secured. Personally I think she brings a lot of strength to the ticket. Having someone on the ticket who isn't in the geritol gang will certainly help attract the younger vote. I was originally thinking she might be in position to be the next Attorney General if the Dem's won; Now that she is Biden's running mate, I'd really like to see Sally Yates get the position. Of course, lots of work to be done before any of this even happens.
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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bobby View Post
    I didn't follow the primaries that closely, but from what I remember, I thought Harris handled herself quite well.

    Who would you rather have seen?
    She's got baggage. She refused to release evidence that would have freed innocent men on death row until the courts made her. Her record as a DA leaves a lot to be desired. She called Biden a "racist" during the primaries and said that she believed he had been inappropriate with women.

    I would have picked Rice. Harris doesn't add anything to the ticket since they already have California. I want Trump to lose, mate. Harris reduces the possibilities of that. Now Trump can frame it as Trump vs. Harris, since many Americans believe that the VP has a better than even shot of ascending to the Presidency.

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    I don't think it matters a lot. You are either with Trump or against him. Can't see many people switching who they vote for based on this VP pick. Qualifications and track record don't seem to matter much in politics anymore. So polarized.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bobby View Post
    I don't think it matters a lot. You are either with Trump or against him. Can't see many people switching who they vote for based on this VP pick. Qualifications and track record don't seem to matter much in politics anymore. So polarized.
    Here are the RCP averages:

    Trump job approval: 43.5%

    National:
    Trump: 41.8%
    Biden: 49.3%

    Florida:
    Trump: 45.3%
    Biden: 50.3%

    Pennsylvania
    Trump: 43.3%
    Biden: 49.7%

    Ohio
    Trump: 44.7%
    Biden: 47.0%

    Biden leads in most battleground states. He's even within 2 points in Texas!

    Note: a 7 point lead is significant. No candidate has won a presidential election by double digits since Reagan in '84. The largest margin since then was 8.4% in '96 when Clinton beat Dole.

    Trump is going to lose. And he knows it.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    I miss Reagan... Hell I preferred either of the Bush's over Trump!
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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by boydo View Post
    I miss Reagan... Hell I preferred either of the Bush's over Trump!
    I prefer (insert President not named Trump) over Trump.

    PS - I loved Reagan.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
    Here are the RCP averages:

    Trump job approval: 43.5%

    National:
    Trump: 41.8%
    Biden: 49.3%

    Florida:
    Trump: 45.3%
    Biden: 50.3%

    Pennsylvania
    Trump: 43.3%
    Biden: 49.7%

    Ohio
    Trump: 44.7%
    Biden: 47.0%

    Biden leads in most battleground states. He's even within 2 points in Texas!

    Note: a 7 point lead is significant. No candidate has won a presidential election by double digits since Reagan in '84. The largest margin since then was 8.4% in '96 when Clinton beat Dole.

    Trump is going to lose. And he knows it.
    To show how dysfunctional the 2 party system in the u.s. is and how party allegiance is sooo strong ; NEVER has a president who lost the election EVEN in a "landslide loss" received less than 40% of the popular vote. So no matter how bad you screw up the job
    4 out of 10 americans will turn a blind eye because of party loyalty. This underlies the importance of the variable 20% of "undecided" voters and voter registration impediments. = U.S.A.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Well, polarization has gotten worse since '84.

    In '36 FDR won by 24%
    In '52 and '56 Ike won by 10% and 15%
    In '64 LBJ won by 22%
    In '72 Nixon won by 23% (one of the biggest margins ever)
    In '84 Reagan won by 18%

    Since then nobody has won with a margin larger than 8%, and the average is 4%. Twice in the last 5 elections the winner lost the popular vote.

    But Trump will lose by around 5%, I think. Biden will get 300+ electoral votes. Trump knows this which is why he is baselessly attacking mail in voting and blocking support for the US postal service.
    Last edited by Deathsdoorstep; 08-13-2020 at 07:31 PM.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
    Well, polarization has gotten worse since '84.

    In '36 FDR won by 24%
    In '52 and '56 Ike won by 10% and 15%
    In '64 LBJ won by 22%
    In '72 Nixon won by 23% (one of the biggest margins ever)
    In '84 Reagan won by 18%

    Since then nobody has won with a margin larger than 8%, and the average is 4%. Twice in the last 5 elections the winner lost the popular vote.

    But Trump will lose by around 5%, I think. Biden will get 300+ electoral votes. Trump knows this which is why he is baselessly attacking mail in voting and blocking support for the US postal service.
    Biden should and I say should cause we see what dickhead Trump is doing to supress votes but he should take back Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Arizona. I don't know if he'll take back Ohio or flip Iowa, Georgia or Texas cause those are so close that the supression should work to get those states.
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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    If he wins Florida and Michigan it's over.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
    Well, polarization has gotten worse since '84.

    In '36 FDR won by 24%
    In '52 and '56 Ike won by 10% and 15%
    In '64 LBJ won by 22%
    In '72 Nixon won by 23% (one of the biggest margins ever)
    In '84 Reagan won by 18%

    Since then nobody has won with a margin larger than 8%, and the average is 4%. Twice in the last 5 elections the winner lost the popular vote.

    But Trump will lose by around 5%, I think. Biden will get 300+ electoral votes. Trump knows this which is why he is baselessly attacking mail in voting and blocking support for the US postal service.
    Mail in voting is attacked because it is unreliable and easily corrupted. With the DNC being as absolutely corrupt as it is of course mail in voting is a major concern.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks1975 View Post
    Mail in voting is attacked because it is unreliable and easily corrupted. With the DNC being as absolutely corrupt as it is of course mail in voting is a major concern.
    As if the Republican's aren't corrupt.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...nline_manual_2
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...d58?ri18n=true

    Show me any evidence of how mail-in voting has been unreliable and corrupted. Trump is actively trying to make it unreliable and corrupted by depriving people of their right to have their vote counted. But, yeah, this is on the DNC.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by nafnikufesin View Post
    As if the Republican's aren't corrupt.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...nline_manual_2
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...d58?ri18n=true

    Show me any evidence of how mail-in voting has been unreliable and corrupted. Trump is actively trying to make it unreliable and corrupted by depriving people of their right to have their vote counted. But, yeah, this is on the DNC.
    Thank you.
    Trump's lackey is the Post Master General. He's the guy cutting services, removing mail boxes and causing all the chaos. If anyone is gonna f up the post office and the validity of mail-in-ballots, it's Trump.
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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks1975 View Post
    With the DNC being as absolutely corrupt as it is of course mail in voting is a major concern.
    So you believe the DNC is officially planning to use the mail system to submit fake ballots?

    Really.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks1975 View Post
    Mail in voting is attacked because it is unreliable and easily corrupted. With the DNC being as absolutely corrupt as it is of course mail in voting is a major concern.
    Where is your evidence? Millions have used mail-in ballots in the past and there is NO evidence of fraud. And if the DNC rates a 7/10 for corruption, the RNC rates a 26.

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    Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugoagogo View Post
    This could lead to a violent uprising that overthrows the US government.

    Not sure that's in the world's interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
    This could lead to a violent uprising that overthrows the US government.

    Not sure that's in the world's interests.
    It's not but in some ways it's almost due in that country
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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Last edited by Esks1975; 09-05-2020 at 11:03 PM.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    674 vets that weren't on that plane or in that car.

    Guaranteed Trump said those things. He's disparaged the military and intelligence services before.

    The only way he will win in November is by messing with the mail in voting. So, by cheating. And he just might pull it off. It will set off a civil war. He is the worst thing to happen to America in my lifetime.
    Last edited by Deathsdoorstep; 09-06-2020 at 08:15 AM.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Mail in voting is what the Democrats want, not Trump. The Democrats are creating riots on the streets and perverting the judicial system as well.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks1975 View Post
    Mail in voting is what the Democrats want, not Trump. The Democrats are creating riots on the streets and perverting the judicial system as well.
    You've heard of COVID-19, right? That's why there will be mail in voting. Trump's claims of fraud are baseless lies. Like so much of what comes out of that vile douchebag's filthy mouth. And while there are certainly marxist and anarchist rioters on the left in the US, there are far more genuine protesters. The Democrats didn't invent them. Police murdering black people did. FACT.

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    The Democratic Media misreporting and misrepresenting the FACTS are creating the riots. Democrat states condoning riots keep them going. FACT.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Esks1975 View Post
    The Democratic Media misreporting and misrepresenting the FACTS are creating the riots. Democrat states condoning riots keep them going. FACT.
    The media and the Democrats may not be helping to solve the situation, but saying that they are creating the riots is laughable. The person most pouring gas on the fire is Trump. FACT.

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    Re: Trump wins the President of the United States Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
    The media and the Democrats may not be helping to solve the situation, but saying that they are creating the riots is laughable. The person most pouring gas on the fire is Trump. FACT.
    The politicization of District Attorneys by Democratic Governments is allowing riots to continue by people who should be facing prosecution but instead are free to riot. For example the McCluskey situation where none of the protesters were charged or Micheal Reinoelh the Trump supporter murderer who was let go on gun charges just weeks before killing someone. FACTS.

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