Should Rhodes be Fired?

[ben_the_eskimo]

I think I know how this poll is gonna go, but it might be good to make things real clear for anybody outside this forum that might be lurking in...

[T-BONE]

Hopefully nobody is high before answering this poll!

[Eskiman]

Hopefully nobody is high before answering this poll!

It’s not bad at all ��

[Sectionq]

He should be but he won't.

[stamphater]

I have a feeling he has insulated himself pretty well and the fact there are few in the media outside of a couple people who are completely failing to point the finger his way says it all for me..

[Eskie54]

Absolutely and Sean Fleming should be hired.

[Eskimo_RoB]

I don't know much, but I do know that Chris Jones and Ed Hervey should still be eskimos. Think of all the players we lost to Saskatchewan and even BC, not to mention the instability that could have effected the confidence of veteran players like willis, bowman, and others. We should be a dynasty team, instead we are at the bottom of the western division. I don't blame JM or BS, I blame Rhodes. Unfortunately, I highly doubt Rhodes will be fired, JM is the unfortunate scapegoat. Maas never should have been put in this situation and I am fed up.

[Beerfish]

I do not like nor have I ever like the old rhodent moniker, it's annoying and too disrespectful imo. Should he be taken to task for poor moves and should he be fired? I voted Yes. Should he be made fun of with a nasty, bullying nickname? No.

Just my take.

[Fishman]

I don't know much, but I do know that Chris Jones and Ed Hervey should still be eskimos. Think of all the players we lost to Saskatchewan and even BC, not to mention the instability that could have effected the confidence of veteran players like willis, bowman, and others. We should be a dynasty team, instead we are at the bottom of the western division. I don't blame JM or BS, I blame Rhodes. Unfortunately, I highly doubt Rhodes will be fired, JM is the unfortunate scapegoat. Maas never should have been put in this situation and I am fed up.

I agree this franchise is in pretty rough shape and has been since start of 2016 season. Successful sports franchises all have one thing in common and that's great management (See Calgary!) When the power struggle happened between Rhodes and Hervey, Hervey should have come out on top. Pretty strong personality and likely not everyones cup of tea but a STRONG football person. Esk's face a rebuild now and current management gives me no sense they are capable of doing it. Suspect they will see further erosion of the season ticket holder base and it will be financial pressure that causes change at the top. Not convinced that will happen for another year or two which is sad!

[Diesel]

I don't know much, but I do know that Chris Jones and Ed Hervey should still be eskimos. Think of all the players we lost to Saskatchewan and even BC, not to mention the instability that could have effected the confidence of veteran players like willis, bowman, and others. We should be a dynasty team, instead we are at the bottom of the western division. I don't blame JM or BS, I blame Rhodes. Unfortunately, I highly doubt Rhodes will be fired, JM is the unfortunate scapegoat. Maas never should have been put in this situation and I am fed up.

Jones was a climber and EH was aware that he wasn't going to be content with just being a HC for long if another opportunity arose. That's why his second contract was for 2 years. He did however, turn around the culture and put the lockerroom in the right direction from where it was. So in essence, CJ did his job

[glenvb]

I do not like nor have I ever like the old rhodent moniker, it's annoying and too disrespectful imo. Should he be taken to task for poor moves and should he be fired? I voted Yes. Should he be made fun of with a nasty, bullying nickname? No.

Just my take.

Agreed.

[ben_the_eskimo]

I do not like nor have I ever like the old rhodent moniker, it's annoying and too disrespectful imo. Should he be taken to task for poor moves and should he be fired? I voted Yes. Should he be made fun of with a nasty, bullying nickname? No.

Just my take.

I actually agree but I still couldn’t help but laugh when I saw that picture. As much as it is immature, it seems undeniably fitting.

[Eskiman]

Rhodes put his well being ahead of the team, Rhodent seems a fair name to me.

[Opus]

This is the poll I was waiting for.

[eskfan152]

I’d like to see this poll hit triple digits.

[GungaDin]

On his watch I’ve seen a game I loved and for which I was a five year ST holder turn into something that for me is unwatchable at Commonwealth. At the last home game, the first I’ve attended this year, I looked across the field and saw about a third of the ST holder seats empty and I thought, I’m not the only one who doesn’t enjoy the improved Disney experience at Commonwealth. I’m hoping the chickens come home to roost on Rhodes doorstep eventually.

[Opus]

I’d like to see this poll hit triple digits.

That would be swell, but what is really telling is the percentage for/against

[EsksTMac]

Yeah, he should be fired. With that said, he should have been fired the second he let go of Ed Hervey. My thoughts on that are unchanged.

With that said, from a football standpoint since the Hervey firing, he's done a good job of hiring smart people and getting out of the way. Jason Maas is responsible for the coaches on his staff and the schemes they run. Sunderland is responsible for working hand in hand with the coach and keeping one eye on the future as well as the present.

Maas has been allowed to run a ship with leaks in it. Sunderland hasn't done a good enough job of taking control and seeing this as it's happening. There's a lot of talent that's come through Commonwealth Stadium in the last 3 years. Having zero home playoff games to show from that is completely ridiculous.

My dream is hopefully Sean Fleming is still interested in the job and Len Rhodes is let go. After that move is made, I hope Fleming assesses this organization from top to bottom including head coach and GM. If he thinks Brock is the man for the job, then keep him. I think Sunderland has a ton of potential in this role and I think he's done a good job but he's also made some mistakes. Let Fleming be the judge of that.

Once that happens, he has to sit down with that GM (be it Sunderland or someone else) and Jason Maas and make a decision. Personally, I don't feel like Jason Maas is ready for a head coaching position. I'd give him an ultimatum: Agree to be re-assigned to an offensive co-ordinator position or be fired.

[Diesel]

My dream is hopefully Sean Fleming is still interested in the job

I'd wager a cup of coffee that he is. Now will the board admit their failures and not take fair criticism personally if there's an interview 2.0 remains the question?

[writfiler]

Yeah, he should be fired. With that said, he should have been fired the second he let go of Ed Hervey. My thoughts on that are unchanged.

With that said, from a football standpoint since the Hervey firing, he's done a good job of hiring smart people and getting out of the way. Jason Maas is responsible for the coaches on his staff and the schemes they run. Sunderland is responsible for working hand in hand with the coach and keeping one eye on the future as well as the present.

Maas has been allowed to run a ship with leaks in it. Sunderland hasn't done a good enough job of taking control and seeing this as it's happening. There's a lot of talent that's come through Commonwealth Stadium in the last 3 years. Having zero home playoff games to show from that is completely ridiculous.

My dream is hopefully Sean Fleming is still interested in the job and Len Rhodes is let go. After that move is made, I hope Fleming assesses this organization from top to bottom including head coach and GM. If he thinks Brock is the man for the job, then keep him. I think Sunderland has a ton of potential in this role and I think he's done a good job but he's also made some mistakes. Let Fleming be the judge of that.

Once that happens, he has to sit down with that GM (be it Sunderland or someone else) and Jason Maas and make a decision. Personally, I don't feel like Jason Maas is ready for a head coaching position. I'd give him an ultimatum: Agree to be re-assigned to an offensive co-ordinator position or be fired.

You’re dreaming if you think that Maas would agree to a demotion as the OC, & give up the HC position. Never gonna happen!
A more likely scenario would be for him to relinquish his OC duties & hire someone else....

[Angelus]

Personally, I don't feel like Jason Maas is ready for a head coaching position. I'd give him an ultimatum: Agree to be re-assigned to an offensive co-ordinator position or be fired.

LOL. He's been a Head Coach for 3 years. And has a winning record to boot.

[EsksTMac]

LOL. He's been a Head Coach for 3 years. And has a winning record to boot.

Yeah, I think he has the ability to be a phenomenal head coach with the right staff around him. But he's also one of the biggest reasons this team is where it is right now.

[cmbuk]

LOL. He's been a Head Coach for 3 years. And has a winning record to boot.

I would be disappointed if we fired maas..

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I think there are just to many meat shields in the way for Len to get fired .. I would imagine him stepping away before it ever got him.

Obv we start losing money hand over fist and then u might see the board scrutinise him above maas or Sunderland.. but the latter will always go first before any fingers point at Len, it’s just the way it is..

[Hugoagogo]

Hervey on differences between BC and Edmonton, "priorities over here are so different, lets win and it's about the fans, we are not trying to be concert promoters out here, we want to win football games." #Lions

— Rick Dhaliwal (@DhaliwalSports) October 22, 2018

Bam!

[Sectionq]

Hervey on differences between BC and Edmonton, "priorities over here are so different, lets win and it's about the fans, we are not trying to be concert promoters out here, we want to win football games." #Lions

— Rick Dhaliwal (@DhaliwalSports) October 22, 2018

Bam!

Thanks for putting that up. I heard it mentioned on the Nielson show but I missed who said it. It's pretty apparent that is bang on.

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I love my team, I want them to win every game and win the Grey Cup every year. But if the Lions go on and win the Cup and Hervey was standing there holding it up in the middle of the field in Commonwealth, it wouldn't bother me that much because maybe that would result in some real change. As long as Rhodes is in charge, the Esks won't be good. To be a good football team you have to have a Pres who knows something about football and who hates losing and demands results. Rhodes doesn't know anything about football and while no one ever really wants to lose, for Rhodes, losing isn't that big of a deal because remember. Winning is not enough.

[Esks1975]

Hervey on differences between BC and Edmonton, "priorities over here are so different, lets win and it's about the fans, we are not trying to be concert promoters out here, we want to win football games." #Lions

— Rick Dhaliwal (@DhaliwalSports) October 22, 2018

Bam!

BURN!

[Hugoagogo]

Dave Jamieson is talking Rhodes and the Eskimo situation right now on 1260

[bone]

Thanks for putting that up. I heard it mentioned on the Nielson show but I missed who said it. It's pretty apparent that is bang on.

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I love my team, I want them to win every game and win the Grey Cup every year. But if the Lions go on and win the Cup and Hervey was standing there holding it up in the middle of the field in Commonwealth, it wouldn't bother me that much because maybe that would result in some real change. As long as Rhodes is in charge, the Esks won't be good. To be a good football team you have to have a Pres who knows something about football and who hates losing and demands results. Rhodes doesn't know anything about football and while no one every really wants to lose, for Rhodes, losing isn't that big of a deal because remember. Winning is not enough.

Agreed. I'm still cheering full on Eskimos, but should they be eliminated, if BC is still around, I'll be fully on the BC bandwagon.

[T-BONE]

This might be oversimplifying things but Hervey teams play with a lot of swagger. The fact that we basically handed a fantastic GM to a divisional rival because of our presidents ego is going to haunt this team for years.

And it’s a fireable offence imo.

[Sectionq]

This might be oversimplifying things but Hervey teams play with a lot of swagger. The fact that we basically handed a fantastic GM to a divisional rival because of our presidents ego is going to haunt this team for years.

And it’s a fireable offence imo.

You better believe it will haunt us. Just wait until Hervey poaches a few more of the Esks good players.