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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by turftoe27 View Post
    Hopefully, DE, David Perkins is on the suspended list just to give the coaches more time to evaluate him as he looked good in the Bomber game and was a well rated college player. Does seem we have good talent at DE though. Was hoping to see improvement at one D line and one Oline spot but looks like those players have held their spot.

    Not much depth right now on the Oline as things stand , especially at C with Roy on the PR. No import Olinemen on the PR.
    Perkins was a relatively late arrival, and not being an outright release speaks well of the impression he made I think. Likely a few roster 'games' being played to work the limits of the rules and extend a look/hold the rights to a few guys.

    There were some positions held on the D-line for the moment, but with names like Vickers, Usher, Jackson and Perkins potentially in the mix, there is still room for someone to emerge as a newcomer.

    Ruby, imo, is the backup Centre, and it's not clear if he is the starting LG or the backup to Bond there. With Saxelid (essentially an American - by birth and by football education), we have a backup at T, and Bond showed the flexibility to kick out there if needed.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Who really stood out as far as the rookies and will any see significant play time?

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by EsksTMac View Post
    Who really stood out as far as the rookies and will any see significant play time?
    I'm going off the board and saying that I'm excited for Shai Ross. Had a great return in the Winnipeg game, in spite of one dropped touchdown. He's also got crazy fast speed.

    Not sure how many reps he'll actually get, but we'll see if it works out for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EsksTMac View Post
    Who really stood out as far as the rookies and will any see significant play time?
    Quote Originally Posted by OK14 View Post
    I'm going off the board and saying that I'm excited for Shai Ross. Had a great return in the Winnipeg game, in spite of one dropped touchdown. He's also got crazy fast speed.

    Not sure how many reps he'll actually get, but we'll see if it works out for him.
    The Esks, historically, dating back to Coehoorn, Chambers, Bailey, Behar, etc have always brought along NI receivers slowly. With Tevaun Smith having a few seasons of NFL coaching in his development, I expect he'll be better positioned to see significant playing time, but I agree that Ross holds some potential, particularly depending on how STs plays out with the ratio regarding other specialists.

    I am looking to see who can make a difference on cover teams, as the departures of Konar and Sherritt will leave some significant holes. The return of Tuck should be a boost, and I think that Diggs and Glass are well positioned to make impacts there as well as potentially Beaulieu.

    As always, I have limited expectations for our draft picks making an impact right away, but hope that we can see some impactful newcomers amongst the imports.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    As always, I have limited expectations for our draft picks making an impact right away, but hope that we can see some impactful newcomers amongst the imports.
    For several seasons (and for legitimate football reasons to be sure) we had a prominent poster here who was such a fanboy of RB John White that he only referred to him by his pet name: "Juan Blanco".

    Since I first saw his college hype video last winter, I told myself that I would do the same thing with WR Bryce Bobo- provided he survived training camp cuts. Well, my man Bobes has done his part by securing a spot on the Esks' practice roster. Hopefully that will just be a springboard on the way to becoming one of those impactful import newcomers to whom GWN was referring.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Any predictions how we use the ratio for week #1....

    My thought is the following for 7 National starters:

    2 - OL (Beard and O'Donnell)
    2 - REC/FB (Adjei, Smith and a number of FB)
    1 - DE (Boetang)
    1 - CB (Colqohoun)
    1 - S (Hoover)

    I feel this is the way it will shake out on Friday. Adjei get the start and we see Smith in a bunch of 5 REC sets....

    Other option is start 3 on the OL and that allows us to go with 4 International REC. Could turn the S to international, but have not see any indication that is even a possibility. I have huge concerns with Hoover at S, but heard good reports from him at camp. So he gets a clean slate to start the season.

    What say you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP12 View Post
    Any predictions how we use the ratio for week #1....

    My thought is the following for 7 National starters:

    2 - OL (Beard and O'Donnell)
    2 - REC/FB (Adjei, Smith and a number of FB)
    1 - DE (Boetang)
    1 - CB (Colqohoun)
    1 - S (Hoover)

    I feel this is the way it will shake out on Friday. Adjei get the start and we see Smith in a bunch of 5 REC sets....

    Other option is start 3 on the OL and that allows us to go with 4 International REC. Could turn the S to international, but have not see any indication that is even a possibility. I have huge concerns with Hoover at S, but heard good reports from him at camp. So he gets a clean slate to start the season.

    What say you....
    I think you're right on this as the likely scenario.

    With Hoover, almost everything we've seen of him in game action prior to this year was at CB, not safety. He's now in his third season, and while it's a new (somewhat) position, and a new system, I would expect the game to be slowing down for him as everything I've heard about him is that he's a bright kid with a high football IQ. I think Beaulieu will be pushing at that spot too.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP12 View Post
    Any predictions how we use the ratio for week #1....

    My thought is the following for 7 National starters:

    2 - OL (Beard and O'Donnell)
    2 - REC/FB (Adjei, Smith and a number of FB)
    1 - DE (Boetang)
    1 - CB (Colqohoun)
    1 - S (Hoover)

    I feel this is the way it will shake out on Friday. Adjei get the start and we see Smith in a bunch of 5 REC sets....

    Other option is start 3 on the OL and that allows us to go with 4 International REC. Could turn the S to international, but have not see any indication that is even a possibility. I have huge concerns with Hoover at S, but heard good reports from him at camp. So he gets a clean slate to start the season.

    What say you....
    It's been my question since they cut Konar, and haven't had an obvious 7th starter behind him.
    T. Smith is one option - but he is a CFL rookie, and has been behind Stafford on the depth chart all training camp.
    Jacob Ruby at guard is the other option. But Travis Bond made the team, so you'd have to scratch him, and have only Saxelid as depth behind your starting 5.

    - - - Updated - - -

    By my rough count the roster still sits at 56 players.
    I think that leaves 10 to be dealt with before Friday, via assignment to injured reserve. We know that is where SirV Rogers and Anthony Parker are headed, but I am not sure who else is a legitimate injury. Believe Knox and Orange are expected to play.

    Do the Global players take up one of the 46 roster spots? or is the required Global player a +1, making roster size at 47? If the former, then it isn't that essentially giving up a roster spot for Americans? As a GM I'd rather have an extra American on the roster than a Global player.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by popo View Post
    It's been my question since they cut Konar, and haven't had an obvious 7th starter behind him.
    T. Smith is one option - but he is a CFL rookie, and has been behind Stafford on the depth chart all training camp.
    Jacob Ruby at guard is the other option. But Travis Bond made the team, so you'd have to scratch him, and have only Saxelid as depth behind your starting 5.

    - - - Updated - - -

    By my rough count the roster still sits at 56 players.
    I think that leaves 10 to be dealt with before Friday, via assignment to injured reserve. We know that is where SirV Rogers and Anthony Parker are headed, but I am not sure who else is a legitimate injury. Believe Knox and Orange are expected to play.

    Do the Global players take up one of the 46 roster spots? or is the required Global player a +1, making roster size at 47? If the former, then it isn't that essentially giving up a roster spot for Americans? As a GM I'd rather have an extra American on the roster than a Global player.
    The 47 man roster is made up of 1 Global player (yes - an addition this year), 2 inactive players (any nationality), 3 QBs, 4 Designated Imports, 16 Imports and 21 Nationals.

    Not counting the QB, there are 23 starting spots on offence and defence, so with only 16 imports, that means that 7 spots have to be filled by Nationals or Global players by subtraction.

    A Designated Import (DI) can play Special Teams and can sub in for another Import player, so a guy like Bond, could be listed as a DI rather than be scratched. Ruby could start at LG (our 7th starter), and if Bond comes in for an import receiver, Ruby could also sub out for a Canadian WR/FB - the switches don't have to be position for equal position. The "7 Canadian starters" also don't have to be the same guys all the time... it's a number that's totally a leftover amount after the imports are factored in, so there is unlimited swapping among nationals for those spots.

    To me, given Saxelid's inexperience, you need both he and Bond on the game-day roster, whether Bond is the starter, or whether he's a DI.

    As for the receivers... we could go with multiple combinations/formations... with 3 imports on the Oline, we could still run out Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Adjei/Smith, or we could go McCarty/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Stafford/Adjei, or we could go Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Stafford/McCarty/Tuck in a double-TE set.

    You make a good point about the number still on the roster - 56 Parkies and I have been back and forth trying to figure how that will look. My guess is the two you identified, and possibly also Shaq Cooper start on the 6-game list, and numerous guys on the 1-game as well. Hard to see Martese Jackson, CJ Gable and Jordan Robinson all getting on the roster at the same time, or all of Anthony Orange, Tyquwan Glass and Josh Johnson.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    The 47 man roster is made up of 1 Global player (yes - an addition this year), 2 inactive players (any nationality), 3 QBs, 4 Designated Imports, 16 Imports and 21 Nationals.

    Not counting the QB, there are 23 starting spots on offence and defence, so with only 16 imports, that means that 7 spots have to be filled by Nationals or Global players by subtraction.

    A Designated Import (DI) can play Special Teams and can sub in for another Import player, so a guy like Bond, could be listed as a DI rather than be scratched. Ruby could start at LG (our 7th starter), and if Bond comes in for an import receiver, Ruby could also sub out for a Canadian WR/FB - the switches don't have to be position for equal position. The "7 Canadian starters" also don't have to be the same guys all the time... it's a number that's totally a leftover amount after the imports are factored in, so there is unlimited swapping among nationals for those spots.

    To me, given Saxelid's inexperience, you need both he and Bond on the game-day roster, whether Bond is the starter, or whether he's a DI.

    As for the receivers... we could go with multiple combinations/formations... with 3 imports on the Oline, we could still run out Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Adjei/Smith, or we could go McCarty/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Stafford/Adjei, or we could go Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Stafford/McCarty/Tuck in a double-TE set.

    You make a good point about the number still on the roster - 56 Parkies and I have been back and forth trying to figure how that will look. My guess is the two you identified, and possibly also Shaq Cooper start on the 6-game list, and numerous guys on the 1-game as well. Hard to see Martese Jackson, CJ Gable and Jordan Robinson all getting on the roster at the same time, or all of Anthony Orange, Tyquwan Glass and Josh Johnson.
    Where do we get a 47 man roster count for? On cut down day CFL wrote it up as 46 man rosters. And I read it as 3 QBs, 21 Nationals, 1 Global, and 21 Americans:

    https://www.cfl.ca/2019/06/07/making...ts-around-cfl/
    – All teams need to have their opening week rosters submitted by 10:00pm ET on Saturday, June 8.
    – A total of 3 of the 46 players for opening week identified must be quarterbacks
    – Of the remaining 43 players, a club must carry a minimum of 21 National players and a minimum of 1 Global player
    – Up to 10 Practice roster players can be added at any time as of Sunday, June 9
    – Of the 10 practice roster players, a minimum of 2 must be National players
    – In addition to these 10 players, clubs can add a maximum of 2 Global players to the practice roster bringing the total to 12.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by popo View Post
    Where do we get a 47 man roster count for? On cut down day CFL wrote it up as 46 man rosters. And I read it as 3 QBs, 21 Nationals, 1 Global, and 21 Americans:

    https://www.cfl.ca/2019/06/07/making...ts-around-cfl/
    – All teams need to have their opening week rosters submitted by 10:00pm ET on Saturday, June 8.
    – A total of 3 of the 46 players for opening week identified must be quarterbacks
    – Of the remaining 43 players, a club must carry a minimum of 21 National players and a minimum of 1 Global player
    – Up to 10 Practice roster players can be added at any time as of Sunday, June 9
    – Of the 10 practice roster players, a minimum of 2 must be National players
    – In addition to these 10 players, clubs can add a maximum of 2 Global players to the practice roster bringing the total to 12.
    My understanding was that there was a Global spot added to the roster this year, and 2 PR spots for Globals. The goal was to not have the Global player take away a job from an existing Canadian or American player.

    This article references a 45-man roster this year. I will admit it is a presumption that there are still 2 inactive spots as their have been in previous years.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/cfl...son/ar-AACFLlM
    Last edited by GreatWhiteNorth; 06-11-2019 at 09:33 AM. Reason: Add link

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    My understanding was that there was a Global spot added to the roster this year, and 2 PR spots for Globals. The goal was to not have the Global player take away a job from an existing Canadian or American player.

    This article references a 45-man roster this year. I will admit it is a presumption that there are still 2 inactive spots as their have been in previous years.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/cfl...son/ar-AACFLlM

    Update on the CFL site:
    https://www.cfl.ca/2019/06/11/global...istory-week-1/

    Formerly the 46 man roster had 2 game day scratches for playing rosters of size 44.
    Sounds like there will still be 46 man rosters, with 1 scratch (reserve) for playing rosters of 45 (including a global player). So game day rosters are increased by 1 to accommodate the global player.
    While the global player doesn't take a game day playing spot away... they still take away a 46 man roster spot. Which is my critique. Especially if pay check is worse on the practice roster this isn't a win for existing players. 1 less active roster salary. Or teams GMs will "Brock" it up and carry excess players on the 1 game IR, which will just serve to eat up cap space.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    The 47 man roster is made up of 1 Global player (yes - an addition this year), 2 inactive players (any nationality), 3 QBs, 4 Designated Imports, 16 Imports and 21 Nationals.

    Not counting the QB, there are 23 starting spots on offence and defence, so with only 16 imports, that means that 7 spots have to be filled by Nationals or Global players by subtraction.

    A Designated Import (DI) can play Special Teams and can sub in for another Import player, so a guy like Bond, could be listed as a DI rather than be scratched. Ruby could start at LG (our 7th starter), and if Bond comes in for an import receiver, Ruby could also sub out for a Canadian WR/FB - the switches don't have to be position for equal position. The "7 Canadian starters" also don't have to be the same guys all the time... it's a number that's totally a leftover amount after the imports are factored in, so there is unlimited swapping among nationals for those spots.

    To me, given Saxelid's inexperience, you need both he and Bond on the game-day roster, whether Bond is the starter, or whether he's a DI.

    As for the receivers... we could go with multiple combinations/formations... with 3 imports on the Oline, we could still run out Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Adjei/Smith, or we could go McCarty/Ellingson/Daniels/Collins/Stafford/Adjei, or we could go Gable/Ellingson/Daniels/Stafford/McCarty/Tuck in a double-TE set.

    You make a good point about the number still on the roster - 56 Parkies and I have been back and forth trying to figure how that will look. My guess is the two you identified, and possibly also Shaq Cooper start on the 6-game list, and numerous guys on the 1-game as well. Hard to see Martese Jackson, CJ Gable and Jordan Robinson all getting on the roster at the same time, or all of Anthony Orange, Tyquwan Glass and Josh Johnson.
    Is there not 24 starters on offence & defence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by writfiler View Post
    Is there not 24 starters on offence & defence?
    Because the QBs are counted separately for the ratio, you need to remove that starting spot when calculating things.

    With the change this year, when a Cdn QB is in the game, the team can treat them as a Canadian starter. If the Esks were to sign Bridge as their short-yardage guy, for instance, when he comes in to sneak it, you could bring in Travis Bond at LG, even if he were a designated import, because Bridge would count. When that Cdn QB is standing on the sidelines, it doesn't provide any advantage to the team.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    Perkins was a relatively late arrival, and not being an outright release speaks well of the impression he made I think. Likely a few roster 'games' being played to work the limits of the rules and extend a look/hold the rights to a few guys.

    There were some positions held on the D-line for the moment, but with names like Vickers, Usher, Jackson and Perkins potentially in the mix, there is still room for someone to emerge as a newcomer.

    Ruby, imo, is the backup Centre, and it's not clear if he is the starting LG or the backup to Bond there. With Saxelid (essentially an American - by birth and by football education), we have a backup at T, and Bond showed the flexibility to kick out there if needed.
    I wonder how many here still think Ed is a standup guy after poaching our PR player today?

    He is a punk. Karma will come back to bite him.
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    Doesn't bother me. PR players are there to be poached. The guy's going to get a better look at a possible career there than he would have here.
    Out of my mind; back in five minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenvb View Post
    Doesn't bother me. PR players are there to be poached. The guy's going to get a better look at a possible career there than he would have here.
    Isn't it an unwritten rule not to poach?

    Did he ever do it while EE GM?
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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Happens several times a year at least, IIRC.
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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by glenvb View Post
    Happens several times a year at least, IIRC.
    Not usually this early in the year. Often not unless injuries happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootler View Post
    Isn't it an unwritten rule not to poach?

    Did he ever do it while EE GM?
    It certainly doesn't happen very often. Lions had some injuries last year at C and maybe still not satisfied there. Sucks to have a guy here for two years and lose him this way. Leaves us with no Olinemen on our PR. Maybe we should pooch Harke , the C from U Alberta from their PR. Behar and Roy , our two top choices from 2017 gone now.

    I seem to recall us taking an Olineman from Calgary once but that has to over a decade ago, if not longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Not usually this early in the year. Often not unless injuries happen.
    Or unless you already have your eyes on players in other teams’ training camps....

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenvb View Post
    Doesn't bother me. PR players are there to be poached. The guy's going to get a better look at a possible career there than he would have here.
    ditto.. its in the rules. I'm fine with it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenvb View Post
    Doesn't bother me. PR players are there to be poached. The guy's going to get a better look at a possible career there than he would have here.
    Sucks to see us lose an asset but it doesnt bother me either, speaks to their lack of depth at that position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turftoe27 View Post
    It certainly doesn't happen very often. Lions had some injuries last year at C and maybe still not satisfied there. Sucks to have a guy here for two years and lose him this way. Leaves us with no Olinemen on our PR. Maybe we should pooch Harke , the C from U Alberta from their PR. Behar and Roy , our two top choices from 2017 gone now. That leaves them with 7 on the 46 and 2 on the PR. The two on the PR are Norman and INT guard and Harke. BC is definitely committed to 4 starting NAT OL and started dabbling with Steward at center in the final 7 days of camp and Calgary game. If they want to continue with that then Pierson's value is primarily at C as a backup only. Roy could be the extra depth piece that allows them to shift Steward to C perhaps permanently.

    To be honest if Sunderland wants to poach Harke I say fill yer boots. I was surprised he was added to the PR. Nothing personal but from watching camp he is strictly a center who offers no depth elsewhere. Standing amongst the other BC OL he looked much the same as Rudy Ruettiger in the Notre Dame huddle. I have a hard time considering a 300# OL being a Smurf but Harke fits the bill relative to the rest of the OL. He's about 10" shorter than Knevel. He'd really look funny lined up beside O'Donnell.

    I seem to recall us taking an Olineman from Calgary once but that has to over a decade ago, if not longer.
    I was a bit surprised to see this. When doing the math though I can see why. BC had 9 OL on the 46 prior to this. I'm not sure what Godber's status is but suffice it to say it's a guarantee 2 of those 9 (Godber and Johnson) will be shifted the the IL, good chances 6G, when the Week 1 roster is turned in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turftoe27 View Post
    It certainly doesn't happen very often. Lions had some injuries last year at C and maybe still not satisfied there. Sucks to have a guy here for two years and lose him this way. Leaves us with no Olinemen on our PR. Maybe we should pooch Harke , the C from U Alberta from their PR. Behar and Roy , our two top choices from 2017 gone now.

    I seem to recall us taking an Olineman from Calgary once but that has to over a decade ago, if not longer.
    That would be Joe McGrath who was plucked off of Calgary’s PR in 2004 & went on to play 5 seasons with the Esks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by writfiler View Post
    That would be Joe McGrath who was plucked off of Calgary’s PR in 2004 & went on to play 5 seasons with the Esks....
    Thanks, I was wracking the old noggin trying to remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    Sucks to see us lose an asset but it doesnt bother me either, speaks to their lack of depth at that position.
    So little depth they're starting 4 NATs on the OL and likely carry only 1 INT (Figueroa) on the 46. That's where a young guy gets caught up in the numbers game. Depending on how a team chooses to set up their game day roster a team with 4 NAT starters can dress 6 or 7 NAT OL if they choose to dress 7 or 8 total. But a team starting only 2 NATs might only have room for 3 or 4 NATs if they want to have a backup INT dressed. For Roy I'm sure he couldn't get on a plane fast enough given he's only played 3 games in 2 years and was once again relegated to the PR.
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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer24 View Post
    So little depth they're starting 4 NATs on the OL and likely carry only 1 INT (Figueroa) on the 46. That's where a young guy gets caught up in the numbers game. Depending on how a team chooses to set up their game day roster a team with 4 NAT starters can dress 6 or 7 NAT OL if they choose to dress 7 or 8 total. But a team starting only 2 NATs might only have room for 3 or 4 NATs if they want to have a backup INT dressed. For Roy I'm sure he couldn't get on a plane fast enough given he's only played 3 games in 2 years and was once again relegated to the PR.
    Last year he didn’t play because he was rehabbing a knee injury the entire season. That’s my concern. Who knows if his knee can hold up.

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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer24 View Post
    So little depth they're starting 4 NATs on the OL and likely carry only 1 INT (Figueroa) on the 46. That's where a young guy gets caught up in the numbers game. Depending on how a team chooses to set up their game day roster a team with 4 NAT starters can dress 6 or 7 NAT OL if they choose to dress 7 or 8 total. But a team starting only 2 NATs might only have room for 3 or 4 NATs if they want to have a backup INT dressed. For Roy I'm sure he couldn't get on a plane fast enough given he's only played 3 games in 2 years and was once again relegated to the PR.
    Fair point but apparently they didn't have the depth to go with 4 NAT on the Oline but that seems fixed now
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    Re: 2019 Edmonton Eskimos Training Camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    Fair point but apparently they didn't have the depth to go with 4 NAT on the Oline but that seems fixed now
    They had the depth to go with 4 NAT OL the way it was looking at the start of camp but it's been looking like there's now a shift in how they want to deploy the starters. With the change of alignment as it's shaping up the mix of reserves for depth was out of whack.

    At the start of camp it was looking like Figueroa at LT, Steward at LG, Pierson or Godber at C, Chungh at RG and one of Foucault, Knevel or Boyko at RT. I really can't speak to how they felt Godber was doing in his rehab process at that time; whether they thought he'd be ready towards the end of camp or if it was longer term. Regardless under that configuration they would have had the two losers of the battle for RT to back up the tackle and guard spots and Harke to back up Pierson. They also have Phil Norman a reserve INT guard on the PR. For the second half of camp they started experimenting with Steward at center. Initially I thought it was to get reps to be the emergency fill-in should Pierson get hurt mid-game. Now it's looking like he will start the season at center with either Boyko or Foucault moving to LG while the other plays RT. Apparently Steward did take on the responsibility of calling blocking assignments at the line last year after Husband went down so it may be less of a learning curve than I first thought. With that in mind the mix of reserves was now out of balance as it would leave Knevel to back up the guards and tackle spots with Pierson and possibly Harke to back up center. Harke is definitely a center only type. Pierson might be able to work at guard in a pinch but I think he mostly played center in college and of course in BC. In acquiring Roy they change the reserve mix by adding a guard/tackle type giving a better balance. It may also make Harke expendable. He seems built to only play center meaning he doesn't offer much value beyond that and with Steward moving to center Pierson gives them all the depth they need for now.

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