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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    He won the first challenge and on the second one, the command center corrected it even before the ref came over to ask what he was challenging for, so he walked over and scooped it up in surprise.
    Ive watched all but one game in the CFL this year and only twice has the eye in the sky made a call that the rule book does not indicate they are allowed to do. Both times it negatively impacted the Eskimos (who the league and TSN don’t like, especially since mic gate) and positively impacted problem Eastern market teams.

    It’s hard not to put on a green and gold tin foil hat and wonder what the hell is up sometimes.

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    Been watching this league for 30 years. I have never been so turned off with the number of flags, challenges, eye in the sky BS. The league has become unwatchable. And to listen to Jake Ireland stumble on radio trying to justify it makes it worse.
    2nd & short = PUNT

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootler View Post
    Been watching this league for 30 years. I have never been so turned off with the number of flags, challenges, eye in the sky BS. The league has become unwatchable. And to listen to Jake Ireland stumble on radio trying to justify it makes it worse.
    Jake Ireland on radio? Wtf?

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    Had an early morning here in the CT zone so only watched the first half live and caught the second half today. Like others have said , what is up with two games in a row that the opposition has no O penalties. CFL evening up the odds ?

    The D calls again by Lolley were outstanding. Argo QB rating was just over 20 %. Burks had a couple of good runs early against us but Lolley adjusted and took that away. So good now to see the DB's making plays rather than standing around like last year trying to figure out who was supposed to cover the guy that just just caught a deep one against us. Walker looking good last night, hurts to see him in Argo blue.

    Been noticing Tanner Green the last few games blocking on short yardage situations. Really gets his nose in there, saw him put an Argo 10 yds back into their endzone on Cooper's 4 yd TD run.

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Quote Originally Posted by turftoe27 View Post
    Walker looking good last night, hurts to see him in Argo blue.
    Flashback to a certain Esk QB from seven years ago...
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    Sorry Bud Steen
    2nd & short = PUNT

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    Quote Originally Posted by writfiler View Post
    By way of update, I heard back from Bud & he advises that indeed you CAN challenge a call made for an illegal block!
    They didn’t show the replay of that on the stadium screen so I can’t comment on the call or the challenge...
    Illegal blocks are often fairly clear and only rarely more subjective, and I would think that impacts how rarely they are challenged. Hadn't ever realized one way or the other if they could be, but good to have that clarification through Steen. Ultimately, the right call was made I think, as the blocker did well to get in front of the shoulders. That said, it's a little frustrating to have to wonder how many guys naturally let up on a play like that when the see a flag come out.

    I am not bothered by delays or eye in the sky stuff so long as they get the calls right. Obviously, consistency has to be improved, but I have a lot more frustration by reviewed calls that seem wrong than correcting mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by turftoe27 View Post
    Had an early morning here in the CT zone so only watched the first half live and caught the second half today. Like others have said , what is up with two games in a row that the opposition has no O penalties. CFL evening up the odds ?

    The D calls again by Lolley were outstanding. Argo QB rating was just over 20 %. Burks had a couple of good runs early against us but Lolley adjusted and took that away. So good now to see the DB's making plays rather than standing around like last year trying to figure out who was supposed to cover the guy that just just caught a deep one against us. Walker looking good last night, hurts to see him in Argo blue.

    Been noticing Tanner Green the last few games blocking on short yardage situations. Really gets his nose in there, saw him put an Argo 10 yds back into their endzone on Cooper's 4 yd TD run.
    Excellent point on Green. Aside from the pick play (broadcast pinned it on Ellingson, but it was Green) he had a good game in an unsung role.

    Happy with the adjustments made on defence, both in game and week to week. Next man up philosophy has been near seamless, and credit to the player's and coaches for preparation. With the exception of Dean, Sewell and maybe Boateng, we are doing what we're doing mostly with people that the casual fan around the league wouldn't have heard of or paid attention to. Our defence is truly fun to watch when they get rolling.

    Like you, I didn't get to see the game live, but managed the nearly impossible and avoided all mention of the game or the result for over 24 hrs and watched last night. Managed the same with the RB/Stamps and watched that this morning, and currently through the 1st half of Bombers/Ticats recording. Technology can be amazing. I think back to 23 years ago when I was teaching English in Asia and would have cassette tapes of Ched broadcasts mailed over to me to listen to a few weeks later. Come a little ways.

    I don't share the opinion that Jackson hasn't justified his role as a return specialist. He first few games were worse statistically, and if just looking at season long stats, it doesn't show the impact he's made on field position - both generally and at some key times - in the past 3 games. I am more confident and optimistic about our return game than I have been in years. I don't mind trying to find a way to get Cooper on the roster with Gable, mostly for more of a load management situation as much as a change of pace. That said, it is rare when a team actually effectively uses two import backs to enough effect that they are both difference makers beyond the insurance factor. Sask, with Thigpen and Powell is about the closest I can come up with, and I think Thigpen does at least some kick returning iirc.

    Offensively, I think we will continue to be a bit of a work in progress in some ways. Was impressed with Harris extricating himself from pressure on 4-5 occasions and not taking sacks, but accept that he's not going to run with any frequency. Nice to see some deeper/intermediate shots, but this is still a quick release, spread it around offence that works best with balance. Even when converting 75% of passes, there will be times when we miss two in a row and drives stall. Have to continue to cut down on lapses in focus (drops) and lapses in discipline (penalties) to avoid hurting ourselves.

    Once again, very pleased with overall play of O-Line the other night, and a few nice demonstrations of Cooper having worked on his pass pro to real effect.

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdar View Post
    If Toronto wins a game this year I'll honestly be surprised
    They get another shot at BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    heard that as well but if you look at yesterday for example, we were at or inside the 20 yard line 5 times

    1. No points - Cooper fumbled on the 1
    2. TD - Harris on sneak
    3. FG - Stafford drops the ball on the 1
    4. No points - Copper lateral/fumble
    5. TD - Cooper


    If Stafford and Cooper hand onto the ball we would have at least been 4 of 5 yesterday as it sits we were 2 of 5.
    If the CFL would have ruled that forward pass correctly there might have been points on drive 4.

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    So cool, seeing how excited the team was for Hoovers first pick.

    #PizStrong

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    So cool, seeing how excited the team was for Hoovers first pick.
    Yeah, it's nice when they all pull together. This reminded me of when Cooper had the camera on him on the sidelines toward the end of the game and he walked over to the O-linemen on the bench so that they could get their props for the job they did.
    "No dress rehearsal, this is our life" - Gord Downie

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Harris giving the ball to his OLs to spike after a TD
    Everyone going ape**** over Hoover's INT
    Shaq throwing the camera onto the Buffet Boys

    Liking this new culture JM's building

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    Re: Eskies vs Argos GDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Prez View Post
    Harris giving the ball to his OLs to spike after a TD
    Everyone going ape**** over Hoover's INT
    Shaq throwing the camera onto the Buffet Boys

    Liking this new culture JM's building
    You bet. I've seen in every occupation...if you're supported by your colleagues, you build confidence, you're happier, you do a better job. This is a huge improvement (and the flip side might have something to do with the tailspin at the end of last year).
    Out of my mind; back in five minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenvb View Post
    You bet. I've seen in every occupation...if you're supported by your colleagues, you build confidence, you're happier, you do a better job. This is a huge improvement (and the flip side might have something to do with the tailspin at the end of last year).
    It's easy to recognize the problems, but it's a whole other thing to be able to do anything about them a lot of times.

    People have a pretty good nose to detect BS, and if what is being asked isn't seeming to be authentic, then those detectors go off and people lose trust.

    In prior years, Maas has been criticized for lacking discipline. I know where it comes from, and know that it is talking about emotional regulation discipline, but I also think it's not a wholly fair word to use for a guy that showed the discipline in his life to rise to a career as a professional QB, and has again, showed the work ethic and discipline to rise within the coaching rankings. Yes - there were aspects that he needed to work on and seemingly embraced those, but in terms of discipline as a whole, you just don't achieve what he's achieved without it. If he didn't have the trust and respect of the coaches and the guys in the room, then he would have a heck of an uphill battle trying to instill the kind of team culture that he seems to be succeeding at.

    My point being, I wonder how much was learned from last year... both in terms of "authentic change" - not trying to become someone else, but just channeling certain things you want to tamp down or bring out... and also in seeing what went wrong and given another chance, what he would do if he had a do-over on some of it.

    The cross-positional teams that he's created - units with guys from all aspects of the team that communicate and compete together through the season is a great piece of cultural leadership, but again, much easier said than done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorth View Post
    It's easy to recognize the problems, but it's a whole other thing to be able to do anything about them a lot of times.

    People have a pretty good nose to detect BS, and if what is being asked isn't seeming to be authentic, then those detectors go off and people lose trust.

    In prior years, Maas has been criticized for lacking discipline. I know where it comes from, and know that it is talking about emotional regulation discipline, but I also think it's not a wholly fair word to use for a guy that showed the discipline in his life to rise to a career as a professional QB, and has again, showed the work ethic and discipline to rise within the coaching rankings. Yes - there were aspects that he needed to work on and seemingly embraced those, but in terms of discipline as a whole, you just don't achieve what he's achieved without it. If he didn't have the trust and respect of the coaches and the guys in the room, then he would have a heck of an uphill battle trying to instill the kind of team culture that he seems to be succeeding at.

    My point being, I wonder how much was learned from last year... both in terms of "authentic change" - not trying to become someone else, but just channeling certain things you want to tamp down or bring out... and also in seeing what went wrong and given another chance, what he would do if he had a do-over on some of it.

    The cross-positional teams that he's created - units with guys from all aspects of the team that communicate and compete together through the season is a great piece of cultural leadership, but again, much easier said than done.
    I know a lot of people dont like Maas but I'm behind him 100% at this point. Hes continued to learn from previous years, which should serve him and us well. If you want to hear if the players are buying into his plan all you have to do is listen to one of their interviews. They have all been saying the same thing all year, "we just want to go 1-0 this week". Something jason has been saying all year.
    #PizStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    I know a lot of people dont like Maas but I'm behind him 100% at this point. Hes continued to learn from previous years, which should serve him and us well. If you want to hear if the players are buying into his plan all you have to do is listen to one of their interviews. They have all been saying the same thing all year, "we just want to go 1-0 this week". Something jason has been saying all year.
    Same here, I don't think there's a coach currently in the league right now that I'd rather have over him to be honest.

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