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    Re: Around the CFL - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugoagogo View Post
    Rumblings from some of the CFLPA guys is there won't be a season this year... Nothing concrete yet, but a fair amount of talk about feet dragging regarding back to play plans and provincial struggles.
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    This UFPA seems to be more like a pro football players' lobby or advocacy group. They only came into existence less than 7 months ago. The only things relative to the CFL I could find was an article making players aware of the CFL option year that would be included in their initial contracts and the fact that one of their advisors, James "Quon" Rodgers is a former CFL player (10 games for Montreal in 2014). There appears to be no formal ties to either the CFL or CFLPA.

    http://unitedplayers.org/announcing-the-ufpa-2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by boydo View Post
    Rumblings from some of the CFLPA guys is there won't be a season this year... Nothing concrete yet, but a fair amount of talk about feet dragging regarding back to play plans and provincial struggles.
    If they don't play this coming year, the CFL as we all know it is dead in the water. You can't go 2 yrs without playing.
    Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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    Re: Around the CFL - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer24 View Post
    This UFPA seems to be more like a pro football players' lobby or advocacy group. They only came into existence less than 7 months ago. The only things relative to the CFL I could find was an article making players aware of the CFL option year that would be included in their initial contracts and the fact that one of their advisors, James "Quon" Rodgers is a former CFL player (10 games for Montreal in 2014). There appears to be no formal ties to either the CFL or CFLPA.

    http://unitedplayers.org/announcing-the-ufpa-2/
    This is just stupid. It seems like this group is only there to stir up **** with comments like this. People panicking about details still being ironed out have their heads in the sand. The CFL is likely further ahead two months prior to their training camp than the NHL or NBA were.

    The reality is you can't make really long term plans with set dates two or three months out in this current environment and players demanding concrete dates obviously haven't been paying attention to the rest of the world. But with the vaccination rollouts looking to potentially get the first dose to all adults who want one by Canada Day suggests to me there is no reason to believe the league can't startup this year if it wants to.

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    ...and another one
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    Somehow that other green team seems to be getting off light.

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    An interesting read.
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    Re: Around the CFL - 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugoagogo View Post
    Interesting, by topped up I assume that they mean the players will be receiving their full salary. I assume there is more to the proposal than that but I can't imagine that they would have a problem with that as then the owners will be the ones taking the loss, not the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    Interesting, by topped up I assume that they mean the players will be receiving their full salary. I assume there is more to the proposal than that but I can't imagine that they would have a problem with that as then the owners will be the ones taking the loss, not the players.
    Assuming the players believe they would be "topped-up". If you're an American rookie making the minimum of $62,500 now getting rolled back to $50,000 Canadian dollars, after taxes and conversions - even with help from their currency exchange partner (thanks, GWN!) that doesn't leave a ton left. Is it worth it to put their bodies on the line for that? Many seem to be saying "no" right now, at least in social media.

    The other complaint seems to be asking why the GMs, Coaches, staff aren't taking the same roll back, with the promise of being "topped-up" later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looner View Post
    Interesting, by topped up I assume that they mean the players will be receiving their full salary. I assume there is more to the proposal than that but I can't imagine that they would have a problem with that as then the owners will be the ones taking the loss, not the players.
    Given the situation it sounds like a decent proposal or at least one the CFLPA can't immediately dismiss out of hand. I'd assume topped up means it players would get back portions commensurate with the percentage of fans allowed in the stands up to full salary once there are no restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Parkies View Post
    The other complaint seems to be asking why the GMs, Coaches, staff aren't taking the same roll back, with the promise of being "topped-up" later?
    Haven't most already been taking a 20% reduction going back to April last year? Regardless the old saying "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" should apply.

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    The top up is pro-rated to how many games are able to have fans in the stands. It doesn't mean that the players are guaranteed to get their whole contract amount. It won't be worse than 20% but it could be less than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Parkies View Post
    Assuming the players believe they would be "topped-up". If you're an American rookie making the minimum of $62,500 now getting rolled back to $50,000 Canadian dollars, after taxes and conversions - even with help from their currency exchange partner (thanks, GWN!) that doesn't leave a ton left. Is it worth it to put their bodies on the line for that? Many seem to be saying "no" right now, at least in social media.

    The other complaint seems to be asking why the GMs, Coaches, staff aren't taking the same roll back, with the promise of being "topped-up" later?
    It’s a tough situation.. but the league could call the players on this.... as there are some very very talented players who play for 200 bucks a week and endure 14 hour bus rides in the process..

    The Cfl could host 4 combines tomorrow at 100 dollars entry a pop with a max salary of say 15k a season and hundreds would show..

    Because this league is based on player turnover the league could play with a ton of cheap guys if the cflpa made a stand..

    I mean u can make some money or no money... I’m not sure how the players are best supposed to attack this...

    It’s a pandemic, folx are losing jobs and more on a daily basis...

    Its a very fine line.. I empathise with the players but I can also see a bigger world picture.. I think the players will have to take a another cut.. or they walk away and move on with their lives.. if America or Canada is anything like here. Where industry and retail and everytime is shutting down left right and centre and people have been on furlough for a year now then the empathy can only go so far....

    It’s imho on the league to not just rely on tsn money to get by.. but to make sure there is nice revenue stream or 2 so it’s bills are covered before fans set foot in the stadiums..

    That’s on the league..

    It’s already selling it’s ass like a woman of the night to the xfl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmbuk View Post

    It’s imho on the league to not just rely on tsn money to get by.. but to make sure there is nice revenue stream or 2 so it’s bills are covered before fans set foot in the stadiums..

    That’s on the league..
    As the financial reports of the community owned clubs show the TSN money is at best the 3rd highest source of revenue behind Gate receipts and Sponsorships. In the case of EFC the TSN money is roughly 1/3 of the combined Gate Receipt and Sponsorship revenue and just ahead of Concessions and Game Day. For the Riders the TSN money slides into 4th place in their revenue streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmbuk View Post
    It’s a tough situation.. but the league could call the players on this.... as there are some very very talented players who play for 200 bucks a week and endure 14 hour bus rides in the process..

    The Cfl could host 4 combines tomorrow at 100 dollars entry a pop with a max salary of say 15k a season and hundreds would show..

    Because this league is based on player turnover the league could play with a ton of cheap guys if the cflpa made a stand..

    I mean u can make some money or no money... I’m not sure how the players are best supposed to attack this...
    You make some very valid points. I am fine with a little tinkering of our game, but I don't want four-down football on a US sized field. Just me, but I would rather the league reduce SMS (most of it through salaries, maybe some of it through roster reductions) and keep the game Canadian. That will ultimately mean we will see slightly lesser talent, but for me, I'd rather see that vs expecting the XFL to save us. It could mean the CFLPA gives a lot more than it wants to; it could mean the league folds and reforms with a new SMS and business model.
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    Wonder if we'll see more of these retirements which under normal circumstances probably wouldn't occur...Mitchell can definitely still ball...https://3downnation.com/2021/03/25/b...is-retirement/
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    After being asked to take a 20% pay cut should games be played without fans, CFL players are wondering if they are the only ones feeling the pain.

    Not so according to Farhan Lalji.

    The TSN insider has done some digging and shared his findings in a series of tweets on Friday.

    “With CFL players being asked to take further pay cuts, I’ve spent the past week checking out what cuts are still in place for team personnel across the league. Virtually every team that rolled back salaries a year ago still has those in place. For those that signed new deals those salaries are reflective of current conditions,” Lalji explained.

    “According to league sources, since the pandemic hit a year ago, pay cuts totaling approximately $6.5 million have been accepted by CFL executives & staff. This includes office & football ops for the nine teams as well as the league office.”

    Those who accepted pay cuts were the lucky ones.

    “In addition, 215 jobs have been eliminated across the CFL – roughly 1 in 3 positions have been cut. Some teams are operating without scouting staffs. I expect less than half the lost jobs will reinstated when a season start date is finalized,” Lalji said.

    https://3downnation.com/2021/03/26/c...andemic-began/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugoagogo View Post
    You make some very valid points. I am fine with a little tinkering of our game, but I don't want four-down football on a US sized field. Just me, but I would rather the league reduce SMS (most of it through salaries, maybe some of it through roster reductions) and keep the game Canadian. That will ultimately mean we will see slightly lesser talent, but for me, I'd rather see that vs expecting the XFL to save us. It could mean the CFLPA gives a lot more than it wants to; it could mean the league folds and reforms with a new SMS and business model.
    Definitely. 3 Downs, Our Field, and the Waggle should be non starters. The rest can be negotiated.
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    Nice to see teams partnering with local businesses. Hell, I might even order some myself
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    If I hear any more info out there, I'll post.
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    Can't say I'm surprised by this...disappointed but not surprised...https://3downnation.com/2021/04/07/c...arters-report/
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    Quote Originally Posted by adb View Post
    Can't say I'm surprised by this...disappointed but not surprised...https://3downnation.com/2021/04/07/c...arters-report/
    Whenever this comes up in CFLPA circles it gets shot down pretty fast... The League might like the idea, but the players don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boydo View Post
    Whenever this comes up in CFLPA circles it gets shot down pretty fast... The League might like the idea, but the players don't.
    And the CFLPA has pretty strong Canadians in it.
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